From: gubnah_azrael@gov.su.us (The Voltairian™/Black Jester™/Closet Libertarian™/Riley Bitterman™) Newsgroups: alt.politics.reform,alt.police.canada,alt.support.schizophrenia,alt.politics.org.nsa,alt.politics.org.cia Subject: Re: LIBTR; BC; VAN: I. A Digest Of Issues: Why The Hell Not!; Issue: #67. Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 12:20:26 GMT Organization: Closet Libertarian™/Black Magus™/Bible Thumper™/Blow Load™ Reply-To: spyhunter-navyseal@gov.su.us Message-ID: <3dac0773.23230115@news.lightspeed.ca> References: <3daa9ce6.3765246@news.lightspeed.ca> <3daac972.15148527@news.lightspeed.ca> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 NNTP-Posting-Host: vandial85.lightspeed.bc.ca X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: vandial85.lightspeed.bc.ca X-Trace: rsl2.rslnet.net 1034684300 vandial85.lightspeed.bc.ca (15 Oct 2002 05:18:20 -0700) Lines: 215 Path: rsl2.rslnet.net Xref: rsl2.rslnet.net alt.politics.reform:18233 alt.police.canada:92 alt.support.schizophrenia:11385 alt.politics.org.nsa:560 alt.politics.org.cia:3617 On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:35:26 GMT, "Lisa Gardner" wrote: > >"The VoltairianT/Black JesterT/Closet LibertarianT/Riley BittermanT" > wrote in message >news:3daac972.15148527@news.lightspeed.ca... >> On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:44:38 GMT, "Lisa Gardner" >> wrote: >> >> > >> >"The VoltairianT/Black JesterT/Closet LibertarianT/Riley BittermanT" >> > wrote in message >> >news:3daa9ce6.3765246@news.lightspeed.ca... >> >> I. A Digest Of Issues: Why The Hell Not!; Issue: #67.; Press >> >> Release(s) >> >> >> >> (i) Angrycan...errr...Anglicans: Same Gender Based Marriage. >> >> >> >> On, the 14th of October, Mayoral Candidate (Vancouver, BC; 2002) >> >> (possibly Dr) Gölök Zoltán Leenderdt (St.) Franco (Assissi) Buday >> >> (Possibly MD) said that he is ever so amused watching the blithering >> >> idiots debate the state of homosexual same sex unions and the Anglican >> >> church dogmas. He doesn't know why those who oppose it don't become >> >> catholic and the ones that do just admit it's a state imposed religion >> >> that has absolutely nothing to do with theology and is all 100% >> >> politics, especially in a neighborhood like the west end where the >> >> pandering towards such a group as homosexuals is as Unamerican as >> >> fruit cake. The whole thing is absurd, the reality is that both sides >> >> talk scripture, one says love while denying scientific realities, and >> >> the other talks the anti-gay marriage end not realizing that such >> >> scripture, and in fact statement on marriage regarding the standard, >> >> disallows King Henry The Eight's Divorce's. It's the problem >> >> with dogma; the painfully literal vs. the segmental sound-bite lover. >> >> If either side were honest one would be Satanic and Paganistic and the >> >> Other Would be a Theological Monotheist. >> >[...] >> > >> >Well, what about King David and Jonathan, King Saul's son, who >> >made a vow to bind themselves together through the generations >> >because they shared a fondness for each other that was, 'better than >> >the love of women'? >> > >> >Now, that must have constituted a marriage of hearts of some sort. >> > >> >Certainly they were very, very fond of each other and even loved >> >each other very greatly. >> > >> >I am not sure what this says about same sex marriages, though. >> >In the spiritual sense maybe there does need to be the balance of >> >polarities or something. >> > >> >Lisa Agnes Gardner >> >> What does that have to do with Christianity which is about the New >> Testiment more than the old, Matthew 19 for instance. The Old >> Testiment is a questionable blend of Torah, Zarathustran Profits and >> other Hebrew shit mixed together. The Zarathustrans do haave more of >> a trustable history in relation to christianity than judaism oddly >> enough. > >Huh? Isn't christianity an offshoot of judaism? And King David is >*the* big king of judaism, and an ancestor of Jesus to boot. > >What am I, Cassandra that Apollo has cursed to have no one >believe her? It's sort of a mix in certain areas, perhaps because of Jesuit and Kabalistic intervention. The thing about this is that Jewish Elders wanted him, Christ, dead for preaching a phylosophy that mirrored Zaroastrianism more than Judaism and in fact his Canaanite Mother, Mary came from those roots, which would have that religious origin, and the mother does raise the child and by jewish law decides the religious fate of the child. Docta Gov. Admr. Count Gölök Zoltán Leenderdt Franco Buday; PhG™/D Aka The Pyromaniac of Madison County. 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You want to pray, go to church. Nobody's objecting." -- Thomas Jefferson -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am the first Prime Minister of this country of neither altogether English nor French origin. So I determined to bring about a Canadian citizenship that knew no hyphenated consideration." - Prime Minister Diefenbaker, March 29, 1958, Maclean's. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We shall never build the nation which our potential resources make possible by dividing ourselves into Anglophones, Francophones, multiculturalphones, or whatever kind of phoneys you choose. 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